Why A Bullet Train Is No Silver Bullet

14 February 2007 - 11:00am

James E. Moore, chairman of the department of industrial and systems engineering at USC, argues that high speed rail linking major metro areas is not a solution for California's transportation needs.

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The rail authority wants to link Sacramento and the San Francisco Bay Area to Los Angeles and San Diego by building a rail system for trains traveling at more than 200 mph... Public resources would be better spent on just about anything else, including delta levies, roads, prisons and schools...Trains are a security nightmare....airports are much cheaper to build or expand than a high-speed rail network...cities and counties may have to use eminent domain to expand their metropolitan airports

Source: Los Angeles Times, Feb 11, 2007

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Comments to Article from Dr. Moore

I've never, until I read this article, heard the words "easy" and "airport expansion" used in the same sentence.

There are no easy answers to solving our transportation dilemmas and what I would hope to see, with the utmost respect, is Academia suggesting specific solutions. I have a hard time seeing the cancellation, let alone cuts, to the HSR as a good solution.

Dr. Moore, What specific initiatives could airport operators, regulators and elected officials do to make necessary airport expansion easier and faster to implement? How do they build the political will to overcome opposition to airport expansion?

In a former life, I worked in Manhattan, and often traveled to D.C. It was the ultimate in convenience to hop on the subway to Penn Station, often less than 20 minutes before the train's departure, and take a productive, pleasant journey on Amtrak to D.C. It would be interesting to know what percentage Amtrak captures, on the East Coast corridor, of people who would otherwise take a flight. I wouldn't be surprised if that figure were upwards of 30%. Since a large share of the travel from/to Southern California's Airports are to/from major destinations in Northern California, one could argue that HSR is quite a good investment for California, if, for no other reason,because the HSR is "one project" as opposed to trying to herd all the airports in Southern California to focus on a regional, if not a state, solution. I believe there are also opportunities to design the HSR system to link airports, a double benefit.

I believe that people and businesses in California might be willing to pay to make the additional improvements to the levies and the schools that aren't covered by the last election, especially if the state government is successful in actually making progress on the promises made in 2006.

In terms of security, I would hope that "the best and the brightest" are trying to figure out how to deal with terrorism at its root cause vs. trying to mitigate it at a never ending continuum of weak links in the transportation system.

Consider this a challenge - develop a model which calculates the time it would take to build the HSR vs. building airport capacity at all of the airports in California.

Article on State high speed rail proposal

As a regional aviation planner in Southern California I thought that the article made several good points about the relative merits of a state HSR system compared to air travel. However I feel that several additional comments need to be made:

--A state HSR system would only substitute for a small fraction of current travel made by California air travelers. The system will have no impact on interstate or international air trips.
--A state HRS system would accelerate urban sprawl in the Southern San Joaquin Valley north of the Tehachapis, which would become much more accessible to commuters from the LA Basin in search of affording housing in sububan/rural areas.
--Tha article glibly mention how relative inexpensive airports are compared to HSR. However, it fails to mention that it is virtually impossible to build new airports in Southern California that are close enough population and employment centers to be commercially viable, due to the extensively developed nature of the region that is mostly surrounded by oceans, mountainous terrain and national forests. Computer modeling conducted by my agency has indicated that remote airports such as Palmdale would need substanital access improvements to be viable over the long term, including, ironically, access by high-speed rail.

Fast forward:

The year is 2024, after $43.1 billion (2003 dollars) the CA-AHSR is
finally running between Oakland Caltrain Terminal and Union Station Los
Angeles. Capable of speeds of up to 185 mph except where prohibited by
noise or safety the system makes nearly 20 trips per day with more than
8000 passengers.

The nice terrorist with the cell phone sees the governor get on board
one of the 8 limited stop specials that make the Oakland Los Angeles
journey in under 4 hours with only 3 stops, Fresno, Bakersfield,
Palmdale. The nice terrorist calls his buddy in the central valley
with the lettuce truck that's been waiting for just such an occasion.
Due to cost overruns and reduced service expectations the right of way
in places like Delano is only 100 feet and large portions are nothing
more than 12ft cyclone fence (mostly to hold back tumbleweeds from
fouling the pantographs) criss-crossed by numerous semi-automated
private at grade crossings. These were concessions to saving money
rather than using emminent domain against the very powerful Central
Vally Agricultural Industry. The lettuce truck has been working the
fields for six months and by now is well known to all the rail
monitoring cameras. Perfect; $43 billion, 400 people, a governor and
America's newest societal icon of dominance and supremacy taken out in
spectacular fashion for the cost of a phone call and lettuce truck.
These terrorists known as the naftaistas not only will never be caught
but their ties to their rouge nation masters in Ottawa will never be
traced. Eco-extremists cheer as the fences come down and the free
range tumbleweeds are finally released to resume their natural migration
patterns. Eventually a minor splinter group of the governors own Green
Party affiliation is blamed. The Bakersfield Dozen (there are 13
conspirators) as they are called eventually win freedom when Supreme
Court Head Justice Lance Ito overturns their convictions when it is
learned that the lettuce found at the scene was not only non-union but
non-organic. The Greens are absolved. President Clinton says she is
pleased and only wishes her mom and dad the former Presidents would
stop feuding long enough to let her appoint them both to the Court so
more such legal ground could be broken before the next election cycle
where it is Jenna Bush's turn to be President.

Back to the present day; Anybody wanna buy this choo-choo?

John Birch Society Card Carrying Member

Robert Cote sounds like an Orange County/San Diego ultra-conservative/anti-United Nations/anti-immigration Minuteman/Ronald Reagan-style communist-bashing/Barry Goldwater libertarian/free market economics wacko to me. I'd hate to see his gun collection! Pay no mind to him.

God bless Northern California, progressive politics, environmental sustainability, social justice, open-borders immigration, cultural diversity, smart growth, inclusionary housing, organized labor, rail transit, regulated markets, bigger government, universal health care, gun control, free speech, Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, increased wealth distribution, less military spending, and more social programs spending. Bring back the New Deal/Welfare State! We need some help from John Meynard Keynes in times like these.

By the way, did anyone happen to notice that this anti-high speed rail "op-ed" happens to come from USC, one of the most ultra-conservative pseudo-institutions of higher education in the United States (ranking up there with the Claremont Colleges and Oral Roberts University), so no wonder!

And yes, I'd love to buy this "choo-choo"; much better spent taxpayer money than the war in Iraq or any of our other "global military expeditions" for that matter.

How about this Scenario?

Try this...a nice terrorist actually takes a couple months to understand what rules American culture and how the country really works. Since a super-majority of Americans drive...and most people utilize our hierarchical highway system they decide to craft a plan to address our completely open highway system. They recruit a couple dozen friends. They secure passenger vans, trucks, and etc. They load them with explosives, ball bearings, and all sort of goodies. (explosives could be of any sort...you can't regulate everything that explodes, and gasoline is quite explosive itself). They pick a few key interchanges, bridges, tunnels, and choke points and detonate their vehicles in pairs during rush hour across the country. No complex strategy, no flight schools, no figuring out the weak points of ROW on a train-line. Can you imagine the havoc to the American Psyche? How about the sheer chaos of the events? The utter gridlock of having to pass through check-points just to get onto highways and key bridges, tunnels, etc.? And we have already spent trillions of dollars to build such a flawed system.

This scenario, like the one proposed, could happen. Of course my scenario is easier to carry, would be more effective and more costly to us. However, the reality is that we can't plan our entire world around the "what-ifs" of terrorism. If you believe you can, stay at home and collect fire-arms. To address terrorism, we probably need to address the root cause and not try to simply terror-proof (or to start further wars). As for the rest of us, we still need to debate the true merits of infrastructure planning and not worthless conjecture.

Sean P. Bender

Convenient excuse

If terrorism is the reason you oppose high speed trains, where is your opposition to nuclear power, chemical plants, oil pipelines, oil refineries, gas stations, airlines, skyscrapers, sports arenas, shopping malls and so on? All are vulnerable to terrorist attack.

Terrorism And Infrastructure

If only we had been so cautious fifty years ago, we could have stopped the commercial airline industry from ever developing, since it is vulnerable to terrorism. In fact, a "societal icon" has already been destroyed by terrorists hijacking a plane.

And if only we had been so cautious 75 years ago, we could have stopped them from building the Golden Gate and SF Bay Bridges. One lettuce truck is enough to destroy a bridge, so we would have been better off sticking with ferries.

Fortunately, there is still time to be cautious enough to stop the nuclear power industry from expanding. Shipments of nuclear wastes to their final disposal site are subject to much more devastating terrorism that high-speed rail, since the radiation would make an area of hundreds of square miles uninhabitable. And the nuclear materials can easily be used by terrorists to make dirty bombs that could make entire cities uninhabitable.

I trust that anyone who opposes high-speed rail because of possible terrorism would also oppose nuclear power, which is much, much more dangerous.

Charles Siegel

CS is right, there are way too many assumptions in the article

Maybe high-speed rail doesn't make sense on a state level, during the era of low fuel costs. But those of us who plan on a 25-50+ year time frame realize that high speed rail is the sustainable solution for mid to long distance travel across our nation.

Moore makes a lot of assumptions and ommissions:

"Gasoline prices in Europe are, at a minimum, twice those in California" Yes, that is currently true. But how long will that last as we approach and surpass peak oil production?

"More Americans than Europeans use their cars to make trips longer than 300 miles, and more Americans than Europeans board low-cost jets to travel to destinations less than 500 miles away" Also currently true. But that's only because there is no viable alternative to car and airline travel in the US. Passenger rail in this country is a joke, I suspect the only reason we still fund Amtrak is as a favor to the auto and airline industries. Sure, you could spend $300 and 30+ hours to take an 800 mile trip via Amtrak, but you could do it much faster and cheaper by car or airplane. If we invested a little money in providing and maintaining a dedicated right-of-way to passenger rail we would be able to travel much faster than by car.

"The 2004 train bombings in Madrid demonstrate a lethal point..." Umm, go ahead and compare rail fatality rates to those of automobiles. And if you want to talk about terrorism, you might recall 9/11. It would be very hard to drive a train into a skyscraper.

"...Japanese and Europeans still have to subsidize their systems." Didn't our federal government just bail out the airline industry? Again? And who laid down all of those highways and interstates? I guess some subsidies are worse than others...

Moore's solution: Build more airports. Assuming we continue to subsidize and bail out the airlines, and assuming fuel prices stay artificially low, and assuming we continue to ignore the pollution caused by air travel, that might work. But just think of how many jobs we could create and how much better for the environment it would be if we built a high-speed rail network for our country.

The military tax is ignored...

What a sad bit of conventional thinking. The article ignores the enormous tax we pay already to finance a military to secure the oil for cheap air travel.

We can wait until scarcity, oil production declines and military challenges and defeats increase that cost and make trains viable (by which time the earth will be warming that much more) or we can try to get ahead of the curve with a carbon tax that would generate revenue for lower carbon emission transportation systems to be begin to be built.

Of course the real change will come when we begin to reduce use of all transport systems and begin a process of national and global energy descent and relocalization. But that's so far outside of the scope of conventional thinking that most people will have no idea what I mean.

Miles Hochstein

Portland Ground: Photographs of Portland Oregon

High Speed Rail and Global Warming

Not a word in this article about global warming or about the fact that high-speed rail emits about one-sixth as much CO2 per passenger mile as airplanes. In Europe, high-speed rail has begun advertizing itself as an environmentally superior alternative to flying.

The article proves its point by assuming that things will not change:

"Europe has a high-speed rail system that out-competes cars and planes for trips ranging from 120 miles to 230 miles, but there are good reasons for that. Gasoline prices in Europe are, at a minimum, twice those in California. Airline deregulation came late to Europe, making it more expensive to fly in those countries. More Americans than Europeans use their cars to make trips longer than 300 miles, and more Americans than Europeans board low-cost jets to travel to destinations less than 500 miles away."

But what happens if we act to slow global warming or if gas prices go up because world oil production peaks? The price of gasoline and of flying could increase, and all of these points would no longer be true.

Charles Siegel

Who cares...

As long as there's transportation, there will be terrorism; so let's not focus on that. Gas just hit $3.00/gallon in Dallas, and I don't even want to know what it is in California. How many MILLIONS of gallons of gas would a high speed rail system save? And how much traffic would be decongested? Why are these NOT the important issues? I openly welcome a high speed rail system that will get me from Dallas to Houston in less than 2 hours. At least Charles Siegel has the right mind frame. If we save 1mil gallons of gas, what happens to gas prices? Increased supply and less demand would lower gas prices. Airlines would cut flights and lower rates. How could cutting our dependency on foreign countries be a bad thing?