The Golden Mean

27 January 2003 - 12:00am

Some members of the New Urbanist listserv Pro-urb recently criticized Richard Carson for his writings about the rise of Urban Realism and the demise of New Urbanism. They asked him if there were any "serious, credible alternatives out there?" In this article Mr. Carson responds and proposes a radical alternative -- The Golden Mean.

Richard CarsonContext: The American Experience

Freedom of choice is at the heart of the American experience. The further you get from the eastern cities, where the European immigrants lived in overcrowded tenement buildings, the more powerful is the desire for a freedom of choice in architecture, transportation modes and the use of the land. Many Americans embrace this freedom of choice with every fiber of their being. For this reason many of them find the increased regulation of their property, lives and cities to be anathema to their belief system.

So it was no accident that the original antithesis to the crowded eastern cities, called "sprawl," was born in the postwar settlement patterns that growth fueled. Cities like Los Angeles, Atlanta and Phoenix each became a poster-child for the failure to do rational planning.

Situation: Paradigm Shift or Trendy Fad?

Rapid population growth and inefficient, costly leapfrog development in the 1960s and 1970s drove some states to act legislatively. The first state-mandated land use planning laws were created by Florida, Oregon and Washington. The intent of these planning goals was to comprehensively address the myriad of complex issues inherent in planning for rapidly growing urban areas. It was not meant to be social engineering. These progressive national models were concerned with the functionality -- and not the psychology -- of the urban environment, and mitigating the impacts of growth on both the natural environment and natural resources such as farm and forest. The reasons for using such comprehensive planning techniques as the urban growth boundary were simple. It helped define the edges of a community and created a compact urban growth form that optimized infrastructure delivery.

In the 1990s, new buzzwords started to appear in the societal discourse. Growth management, neo-traditional town planning, smart growth and new urbanism became the latest planning catch phrases. All of these movements had one thing in common – they believed they could improve on the comprehensive planning process. The promoters of these "new and improved" approaches to urban planning presented their products as more environmentally sensitive, having better urban design, and solving the traffic congestion conundrum. For the most part, all of these movements have added some value to how we plan for our cities. However, all of these in total did not go far enough in actually solving the real issues of growth. Edward Abbey said that, "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." The truth is we did not cure the cancer. We merely slowed the progress of a disease that may still kill us.

Solution: The Golden Mean

So where do we go from here? New Urbanism is an intellectual solution that makes density more enjoyable through design, but it not a practical solution to rapid growth. Smart Growth in reality only slows growth by incrementally moving urban growth boundaries. Both use higher densities to try and slow the geographic expansion. Neither doctrine has found a home in the nation's psyche because of our belief in freedom of choice and our disdain for social engineering. Neither doctrine alone can change the fact that growth in metropolitan areas will result in overcrowding, traffic congestion, and poor air quality. Gridlock is simply a function of too many people living in an area, and no concurrency policy or dollar outlay can fix it. The same can be said of air quality.

Nor can either policy stop the expansion of cities. It's inevitable, for instance, that the West Coast will eventually evolve into a massive megalopolis stretching along Interstate 5 from San Diego, California to Seattle, Washington. There are similar examples all around the country.

There are a few urban theorists who suggest that cities may have an optimum size and population. They tell us that an ideal city is a sustainable one, where economic, social, and environmental systems are in balance, and where residents feel that they are part of a definable, understandable community. Writers like Ian McHarg in Design with Nature have pointed out that urban areas, like natural areas, have an inherent carrying capacity. Others, like Carl Sagan in Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors described the pathological effect of population size on urban areas and individuals.

Yet planners rarely talk about limiting growth. That's because we don't have a politically marketable alternative that allows for rational growth. Even in the states where urban growth boundaries are a way of life, the urban areas keep expanding.

Daniel Kemmis theorized in The Good City and the Good Life, that a city's optimum size could be determined by using the ancient Greek "Golden Mean" formula. The Greeks devised the Golden Mean as a tool to solve a problem of something very large (the earth's population) relative to something very small (a single human being). The formula A/B=B/C reveals that the earth's population (now 6.3 billion) would ideally result in 80,000 cities with 80,000 individuals in each city (1/X=X/6.3 billion). Christopher Alexander in A Pattern Language also argued for a hierarchy of size and space, and Constantine Doxiadis articulated a similar taxonomy in his influential 1968 book, Ekistics.

Certainly there is credible evidence that smaller metropolitan areas like Eugene, Oregon and Santa Fe, New Mexico are livable precisely because of their size and sense of place. This is not a No Growth strategy. When new towns are needed, they should be established at a minimum distance from existing settlements. Such towns would never outgrow their urban growth boundaries or intrude into their greenbelt buffers. This is a model that has existed in Europe for centuries.

A basic tenet of planning is that we plan for 20 to 25 years -- the equivalent of one generation. If our life span can be 80 to 90 years, then shouldn't we be planning our cities for four or five generations? So why not have 100-year plans?

Conclusion:

We need to manage our cities wisely and there are three basics for city planning. First is to understand a city in the context of the space-time continuum already discussed here. Second is that the city function effectively and cost-efficiently. Third is that the city should grow organically. That is to say it has to be a place the people of the place want. It has to reflect the city's unique geography, geomorphology, history and society. Quite frankly, the special interests (i.e., building industry associations, environmental group, new urbanists) should butt out. The citizens should be allowed to democratically divine their own future. A city should be the creation of its citizens because only they can build a city for the purpose of providing for their happiness.


Richard Carson is a writer and a practicing planner of 30 years who lives and works in the Pacific Northwest. He is also the Internet editor for the Open Directory Project’s Urban and Regional Planning category that has some 400 website listings.

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How Refreshing - A Voice of Reason

After reading many of the comments to Op-Eds critical of Smart Growth one thing has become quite evident. You smart growth types are a bunch of control freaks that thrive on telling others how to live.

Thanks Mr. Carson -- you're a class act in comparison to all the busybody know-it-alls around here!

The Golden Mean

I enjoyed the article. Smart Growth no longer fits 95% of the United States as a viable model for "Planned Growth". The rural communities who have adopted "smart growth" are rapidly being absorbed into the new urban centers. The results- more crime, more congestion, less quality of life.

Alternatives to reality

The best alternatives are alternatives to reality. Sometime reality sucks. And some of us are "alter-natives" by birth.

Not so funny, huh?

Last year, Carson was debated into a corner and bailed out, claiming he was joking and chided the planners who fell in his "trap." A few of his buddies patted him on the back for it, and that "discourse," as he now calls it, ended. I guess it's not so funny any more. Carson's back with a vengeance. He now invites homebuilders and developers to "butt out" of planning and apparently believes that local growth will peter out after a population surpasses 80,000. This isn't the 19th century, Carson. The only alternatives you offer are to reality.

Golden what?

As an urban designer for the City of Vancouver, BC I wish to thank Patrick Moan for his comments as well as forebearance in responding to the latest bucket of whatever from Mr. Carson. I responded to an earlier op-ed piece of his that compared state-initiated growth management in Oregon and Washington to that of China's central planning. As far as I can see, this is yet another attempt to heighten his profile at the expense of other professionals. It's tiresome and in many ways very sad.

As Mr. Moan points out, there are many examples of pretty succesful cities, as well as unsuccessful ones, and the focus of the argument for planners should revolve around an analysis of what makes them one or the other. I find that the principled basis of New Urbanism is founded on such a critical analysis of both failed and successful models, and has reinvigorated the profession of physical planning and urban design that for decades had no bearings whatsoever.

A few words on a more specific meaning of the Golden Mean, or Section, in geometry, art, architecture, town planning and even music: the idea concerns the division of a line or rectangle into supposedly harmonious and repetitive parts, roughly on the order of 1:1.6, or 3:5, or vice versa. Both the facade and the plan of the Parthenon exhibit these proportions, and Corbu's Modular was originally based on it as well, as do many, many ugly buildings where designers tried to use a formula for success. (It might be fun to check if the typical lot or block dimensions in your own city reflect these proportions.)

In the past there was much debate about whether any system of proportionality could directly translate into a thing of beauty or efficacy. Colin Rowe pretty much dismantled the idea as it might apply to town planning in the 1970s.

I doubt if we'll ever know if or how an idea of numerical or geometric proportionality could translates into an optimum size for a city, whatever our personal biases or preferences are. (I also like some small to medium sized cities of 80,000, noting that Venice, Siena, Bellingham, Wa and Victoria, BC are all roughly in this range.) So, this field of criticism is pretty empty at the moment, except perhaps among academics in mathematics and literature. And naysayers.

Mr. Carson's magic wand.

I must apologize to Mr. Carson for not getting to his core content (i.e. The Golden Mean), I was too busy caught up in his choice of phrases and words for planners who support the policy directives of the American Planning Association. Choice words Mr. Carson…“Cult membership”, “psychobabble”, “swill.” Tremendously effective communication techniques … I must say.

Demonizing Mr. Carson? People participating on this planning discussion prefer that they not characterized as people who smoke pot and dodge drafts. Planners in the mainstream prefer not to be called zealots because they are pursuing goals stressed by the American Planning Association and members of their own communities.

Perhaps the American Planning Assocaition should not be responding to problems experienced in community across America. We’ll just wait for Mr. Carson’s “golden mean” to magically manifest itself as a solution to address all that plagues industrial democracies. I can imagine a time, not too far from now, where Mr. Carson will wave a magic wand, and population growth will stop. All our problems will dissipate. Mr. Carson, taking advice from Aristotle, will ask some percentage of residents of larger cities like Seattle and Paris France to pack their bags and colonize new areas based on the “Golden Mean.” Brilliant, and practical at the same time! No need to know about urban design or methods of financing innovative projects. No need to work on improved formats for public participation. Thanks Mr. Carson, you’ve helped the profession to understand why Vancouver BC, NYC, and Seattle are such terrible places to live. If only they had followed the rules implicit in the “Golden Mean.”

Planners, politicians, and residents of Vancouver, British Columbia, will be waited with baited breath to hear how they make a mistake by following New Urbanist principles rather than holding out for your “Golden Mean” In 2002, the United Nations named Vancouver, BC as the world’s most livable city. Over the past decade, the majority of Vancouver’s population growth was accommodated by new development within the city limits. Quality of life rose dramatically over the same period. Or perhaps residents of Vancouver, BC (I am a former resident), have been brainwashed and inducted into the cult Mr. Carson has identified.

On a serious note, Mr. Carson is being disingenuous when he says planners are stifling criticism of smart growth and new urbanism. As mentioned earlier, there are hard hitting editorials that provide criticism of new urbanism to think about and respond to. A recent piece by Michael Pyatok from the Planners Network is one such example (see http://www.plannersnetwork.org/htm/pub/archives/152/pyatok.htm). There is a sharp contrast between Pyatok and Mr. Carson. Pyatok expresses himself clearly and intelligently. He’s clearly disturbed by some of the developments he senses in conjunction with the evolution of new urbanism. Pyatok expresses his ideas with the clear goal of enhancing thought within the planning community.

One final note about Mr. Carson’s insights on the “Golden Mean”…. There are presumably good reasons why few picked up on these sharp “ideas.”

On reflection, I really do look forward to more of Mr. Carson’s insights in the future. Forget everything I said about his communication skills. Similarly, I heartily apologize to the small army of Mr. Carson’s supporters who people like me have “frightened” into silence. We are a cruel, intolerant, misguided lot who really do want to take away your freedoms. Fiercely defend your right to resist social engineering- for there is none at work now.

Political extremism

It's clear that Mr Carson criticizes NU and Smart Growth from conservative, political perspectives - his free choice. But, this should not allow politically distorted viewpoints to go unchallenged.

I must complain about a few of his statements:

"New Urbanism is not a practical solution to rapid growth". "Smart Growth only slows growth by moving urban growth boundaries". Both NU and SG use higher densities to slow the geographic expansion". "Neither policy stop the expansion of cities".

These statements are simplistic and misleading. NU opponents willfully ignore its principles of "mixed-use development" and "economic diversity". It's politically more effective to misuse the term "density". Diversity, not density, is NU's main principle. Within a metropolitan region's boundaries, the most effective means for reducing overwhelming travel dependency, (ie gridlock) is NOT to densify but to diversify.

"Neither doctrine (SG & NU) alone can change the fact that growth in metropolitan areas will result in overcrowding, traffic congestion, and poor air quality".

Again, Mr Carson discounts the precribed remedies of NU & SG. Traffic congestion is the result of a lack of transportation choice and an artificial travel demand created by "single-purpose" sprawl development. Such sprawl eliminates choice in lifestyle and travel mode, a definite contradiction in Mr Carson's verbiage.

"Gridlock is simply a function of too many people living in an area, and no concurrent policy or dollar outlay can fix it".

Mr Carson, at this point, proposes a development model of entirely new cities, of limited size, leaving existing cities and suburbs to stagnate. I find such ideas unrealistic, even undesirable. Should we abandon the environment of our asphalt wastelands, to pave over yet more land? Should we not improve dilapidated urban habitat? How could such new cities be constructed without relying upon existing cities?

"The city has to be a place the people of the place want".

The problem is: People want everything and someone else to pay for it; luxury travel, but no travel-related pollution or costs; a political philosophy that promises security and stability, and an opposing political philosophy to blame for failure.

"The special interests (i.e., building industry associations, environmental groups, new urbanists) should butt out".

This last paragraph exemplifies Mr Carson's political extremism. Perhaps, he's yearning to become the next Wendell Cox, or the next euphemistic, "uniter, (sic) not a divider".

Cult or cultural shift?

I want to thank Patrick Moan for making my point. Some New Urbanist members act more like members of a cult than participants in a great cultural shift. If you say what they don't want to hear, then they demonize you. It is easier than addressing the concepts the person presents. If you read his response it is "Mr. Carson" this and "Mr. Carson" that. Not once does he discuss the ancient theory of The Golden Mean. I would think such an ancient theory of relativity is worthy of discussing here. By the way, my undergraduate degree is in geography. I have nothing against a degree in planning. If fact, I think it is most worthwhile. I just think that getting the AICP designation is a waste of time. But that is another discussion.

By the way, I am leaving for Mexico in the morning. It is a welcome change from the rhetoric of intolerance.

Old Urbanism?

This section is called Op-Ed, Mr. Carson should feel free to express his opinions as he pleases.

I find it funny how New Urbanism tries to pass itself off as being an innovative, new trend in planning when in reality it's often just a nostalgic attempt to recreate neighborhoods of the past. What exactly is new about New Urbanism? There simply doesn't seem to be anything new about much of the rational design principles that New Urbanism supports.

What I don't find appealing about New Urbansim and the CNU is how it's often promoted by its supporters as a sort of morally righteous movement having an either you're with us or against us mentality. If at any time you differ with the opinions of New Urbanism, you are accused of being an irrational and uneducated individual. Do New Urbanists really think that all social ills can be cured through urban design?

Like I said before, not everyone wants to live in a Truman Show-like world.

The Absurd and Degrading Comments of Mr. Carson

My comments are limited to the Mr. Carson’s written words. I could draw from many comments Mr. Carson has made during his crusade to invalidate the premise of new urbanism.

Partial sample of ABSURD comments made by Mr. Carson:

1) Carson writes...“In recent years, the planning profession has lost its philosophical compass and therefore its professional direction. The planning profession has fallen prey to consultants who simply repackage old ideas and then sell them back to us for personal gain.”

Here Mr. Carson has summed up the careers of thousands of people in a neat package. He provides no analysis, no examples. In short- an absurd statement.

2)Carson writes...“We have watched what was traditionally land use planning be reinvented as comprehensive planning, growth management, neo-traditional town planning, new urbanism, and now smart growth.”

Who is "we" Mr. Carson? Planning, like any profession should be in continual evolution. Smart growth takes into account a broad range of concerns that traditional land use planning did not. It’s helpful that planners have an appreciation diverse concerns such as a developer’s business model (i.e. constraints of REITS and DCF methodology), environmental concerns (state-level environmental statutes that often work against creating compact communities), consumer choice (i.e. people respond visually oriented survey’s very different than non-visual surveys), affordable housing etc... The point is that effective smart growth planning requires lateral thinking that goes beyond traditional land use planning concerns. Planning in an extremely interesting and interdisciplinary profession. Medicine, computer engineering, military science and many other disciplines are in constant evolution. Planning is no different. Mr. Carson seems to miss the point that professions evolve.

Sample of DEGRADING/ABSURD comments made by Mr. Carson.

1)Carson writes: “I have been chastising the "new-age" planners -- often architects who grew bored with their own profession”

Mr. Carson has stated his low regard for a planning education, but had he gone to planning school he would have learned that planning’s roots are in physical design (and hygiene). The planning profession’s “fathers” had an education in architecture or landscape arch. My own background is computer science, history and planning. As a non-architect I understand the relevance/importance of arch/landscape arch to the profession. I’m glad to see new urbanism stressing the importance of physical design.

2)Carson writes: “And who are these planners? Many were college students in the 1960s and 1970s. They went to college to avoid being drafted into the Army and being sent to fight in the Vietnam War... while someone passed around marijuana.”

Yet another misleading generalization in a Carson essay. I attended the U.S. Naval Academy after Vietnam. “Marijuana” wasn’t really a big thing on our campus. My point is many people who call themselves new urbanists don’t fit into the narrow category Mr. Carson describes above.

3). Mr. Carson uses terms like. “more swill”… “mindless zealots” and similarly well thought out descriptive language. There is simply no place for this on Planetizen. Mr. Carson’s editorials create a caustic environment in which little or nothing of substance gets discussed. People who write editorials should be held to a higher standard than the occasional person who lets a rude statement slip through.

I for one am neither trying to stifle criticism of new urbanism. Criticism is essential. Argument and debate is essential. Others have said as much, including the American Planning Association (remember their recently created New Urbanist division?). I may not be alone in hoping Planetizen seeks out more insightful critics of new urbanism than Mr. Carson.

Mr. Carson implies there is a whole silent majority of people who disagree with a vocal minority. Carson views NU as a club that you're in or your not in. NU is about realistically thinking about the urban condition in all its complexity.

More swill

I find it sad that I get e-mails from planners who agree with me and that they are afraid to post a comment here. Quite frankly, they are appalled and a little fearful of the venomous attacks of the new urbanist followers. The new urbanists resort to name calling and personal attacks. For example the last post said that I was "unprofessional, bordering on the absurd." Is that how we planners talk about our colleagues? Another says I am writing “swill.” Another talks of my “ongoing hallucinations.” Such attacks demean the profession and border on a Jerry Springer mentality. And to many it demonstrates the self-serving rhetoric of the new urbanists. It’s all about their legacy. Their faith. Their claim to glory. And everyone one else is unprofessional, speaking swill and absurd. What a sad little group of zealots they are. No wonder they are not a credible force. They attack those who have a thought not in line with their desire for a manifest destiny.

I will not let them bully me.

Time to move on from Carson-style debate

The tone and content of Mr. Carson’s many contributions to Planetizen (including his January op-ed) suggests that his understanding of urban design, public participation, capital improvement programming, environmental protection, sociology, history of urban form etc, is … well different to say the least.

I urge the editors of Planetizen to seek out authors of op-ed pieces who think before they publish. Far too much of what Mr. Carson is unprofessional, bordering on the absurd.

There are hard hitting editorials that provide criticism of new urbanism to think about and respond to. A recent piece by Michael Pyatok from the Planners Network is one such example (see http://www.plannersnetwork.org/htm/pub/archives/152/pyatok.htm). There is a sharp contrast between Pyatok and Mr. Carson. Once senses that taking issue and arguing with Pyatok will generate a deeper and more complete understanding of the barriers to alter urban form and address the multi-faceted concerns he raises.

Pyatok is operating a deeper and more professional level and demonstrates an understanding of the kinds of issues I face in my own jurisdiction with respect to a range of issues such as racism, concentrated poverty (and its impact on transit expansion), dysfunctional political environments, co-modification of housing by wall street and so on…

I take issue with some of what Pyatok says, but his words are a contribution to a discussion. Mr. Carson is an unwelcome distraction who ensures that debate and discussion get frozen in time.

As a new urbanist, my hope is that the editors of Planetizen can seek out writers who are more critical of New Urbanism than Mr. Carson is. There are so many hurdles to placemaking today. Challenging assumptions is imperative if new urbanism is to continue to evolve (as the pro-urb authors pointed out earler). The debate, however, should not be about whether professional planners should urban form based on human scaled principles. The debate should be over how to overcome the barriers and discuss all those issues that intersect with urban form (read Pyatok for an elaboration on this).

It’s time to move on from the Carson-style debate. I would expect the editors of Planetizen to edit out Mr. Carson's "mindless zealot" statements and give Pyatok a call. We can all have a much more productive, informed and civil disagreement.

a double standard

Mr. Carson begins his essay by propounding a bizarre double standard. When land use regulation leans too far in the anti-sprawl direction for Carson's tastes, its "social engineering". But where (as in Atlanta or other newer cities) land use regulation creates more sprawl, its "freedom of choice", and where government splits the difference, its -"comprehensive planning." Sorry, you can't have it both ways - government regulation is government regulation.

Choice

While I don't have the time to pick at the many points in Carson's article that deserve it, can we at least dispose of the absurd canard, "our belief in freedom of choice and our disdain for social engineering". Choice is not an absolute, and we should at least hope that this freedom of choice that we allegedly worship is informed choice.

Choice in one area forecloses choice in other areas. As an extreme example, do you choose to be able to breathe the air and drink the water or don't you. If your choice is "yes, I do like to breathe air and drink water", then guess what? You can no longer choose to overpopulate the planet and live in settlement patterns that pollute the air and deplete the water supply. So then we have to define what the acceptable choices are that remain, based upon this first choice that we have made.

Secondly, if we do take the time and effort to try to determine what those feasible choices are and plan accordingly, we are then accused of (gasp) social engineering! I think "social engineering" is really a term that was cooked up to provide a pejorative label to any attempts to exercise our choice to design livable communities that actually do allow us poor humans to live up to our potential.

Can we concede then that we have the right - indeed the obligation - to examine the natural forces within which we must exist and respond to the danger signals we get that we may be taxing our planet's natural capacity, not to mention those social institutions that allow us to function together as a society. (Darn! I'm using those "s" words again. Sorry) Further, that we also have the right (and obligation) to put our best thinking to work to respond to those realities through a variety of means - including the way we live, work, settle our land, and transport ourselves - that will allow us to continue to exist.

If we're going to worship choice, let's at least make sure we make the critical choices first and understand the implications of doing so.

$ = NIMBY

Well, this article was well and good and very idealistic. Tell me how to let the citizens "decide" how they want their cities to grow? It has been my experience that once a place has attracted people who do not have to earn a living there, they use their voices and dollars to STOP anyone else from moving in. Most frustrating in a small town that needs new development to fund infrastructure that has out lived its usefulness.

Golden Mean Doesn't Limit Growth

Dev Vrat's point of sustainability and limits has merit, but in the recent past the threat of us all reaching some Malthusian or Club of Rome limits have been challenged by human innovation, unless we consider the existing death rates from malnutrition, disease, disasters, ect., part of this limit. Can humans continue to hold off or eliminate such limits with further innovation?

A more thorough understanding of sustainability may involve turning typical supply and demand curves on their heads, to the shock and likely resistance of many influential enitities. That may be one reason many of us use this word so vaguely.

With continued innovation, is population growth really the problem?

One innovation that seems to be lacking is our ability to, within reasonable tolerances, project population and land use growth beyond ten years. Until this is better refined, talk of limits and sustainability may be less than productive. By the way, my understanding of human innovation is not limited to hard sciences (physics,etc.) I believe that, for this brief discussion, human innovation (go ahead, come up with a better term for it) includes rediscovering past wisdom and culture, too.

Gridlock

> Gridlock is simply a function of too many people living in an area

Gridlock is also a function of people driving too much. When home, work, play and the grocery store are all miles apart without a sidewalk in sight, what other choice do we have?

Golden Mean Doesn't Limit Growth

Fun to read and Rich is obviously well read, however, he has not addressed the core issue: unchecked population growth.

Any development model will reach and exceed its design limits - even "The Golden Mean." We don't want to face the population growth problem.

Planners only plan to accommodate growth. No matter how we plan, our plans will be outgrown.

What does sustainability mean? It means the growth must go somewhere else. Is this sustainable?

Since we won't address the population issue, I think nature will take care of itself and at some point there will be a huge "correction" resulting in an appropriate human population decrease.

Thoughts?

What a crock

Why don't you get decent people to write commentaries, like Roberta Gratz or Alex Marshall? Better yet, just post chapters of their books. That would offer a lot more to people interested in planning issues rather than this swill, because....

The statement that sprawl is necessary to accomodate growth in the U.S. population is ridiculous. Since 1960, the U.S. population has increased by 65%. Yet the amount of land dedicated to accomodate this growth has increased by many, many times this number.

Two examples:

Washington DC 1950 had a peak population of 802,000 living in a 62 squre mile city. In 2002, Fairfax County Virginia passed the million mark in population, needing 399 square miles to accomodate them. Do the math -- more than 6 times the land area is needed to accomodate 25% more people.

Detroit and the three county area. Detroit 1960 had 2 million residents in a 177 square mile city. The three counties -- Wayne, Oakland, and Macomb -- totalled 3.76 million residents (of which 2 million lived in 177 out of Wayne Counties 614 square miles by the way). In 2000, the three counties totalled 3.9 million residents, yes a grand increase of 200,000 people in population from 1960 to 2000, spread out over 2,006, rather than more than half accomodated in 177 square miles in Detroit. (Yes, I know with sprawl that people commute all over and that the Metro area has grown to encompass additional counties but that doesn't really change the basis of the argument).

Do the math.

The argument is specious.

Richard Layman, Washington, DC

not a planner, but interested and able to read, analyze, and make inferences, considering graduate school

Butting out

Carson dismisses Smart Growth and New Urbanism as "not having found a home in the American psyche." But the poll numbers suggest otherwise -- huge majorities of Americans support smart growth policies. You can read a poll showing as much. Carson's version of America is a hallucination. People here are not dumb and they do not find parking lots to be better than creeks. He seems to think that we are a country of "Wayne's World" clones who would rather spend Saturday night watching planes take off a runway than walking down a main street.

He then advances his "golden mean" suggestion. This is an interesting idea, and it fits in with the New Urbanist idea that cities should be cities, towns should be towns, and countryside countryside -- without the mishmash disasters that characterize sprawl. However, Carson says planners, advocates, and builders -- the people who know most about what people want and how to get it -- should butt out. We should, apparently, walk away, and let people build whatever they can. If it happens to look like Tijuana crossed with Tyson's Corner, too bad. That's what people build when there is no coordination, no vision, no big idea at hand.

Fortunately, the public is not going to flock to Carson's ideas. The new urbanists have examples of what we are talking about. People like what we offer, and they bid it up. I hope people aren't taken in by Carson's ongoing hallucinations. We need to remain hopeful about our ability to build the places we really want.

You offer no alternative

Mr. Carson, You are saying nothing. You have offered no alternative. You miss the point so extremely as to mistakenly simplifiy an complex and wicked problem into simply an issue of population size (what about the existing cities +80k?). Futhermore, some NUers would probably agree that there is an optimal population size for a city.

What you confuse is that NU is not prescriptive or stylistic (i.e. 'trendy'), but rather offers a myriad of design choices and city ideals. Some NUers support growth boundaries, some don't. Some would agree on the 80,000k population, others would not. What is in common among new urbanists is really the belief in learning from thousands of years of historical precedent and building cities for Humans at a Human Scale.

I challenge you to find where your solution (albeit prescriptive and simplistic) would be counter to, or offer an alternative to what is contained within the Charter of the New Urbanism.

The propaganda war

I was asked to provide some "serious, credible alternatives" by the New Urbanists. And you ignored my ideas in order to take the opportunity to put out the shallow New Urbanist litany you bought into. This is not a serious debate about urban planning concepts. This is a propaganda war by a special interest group against one man's faith. It is shadow dancing. But I am fine with this. It is becoming apparent to many thinking people that this is not a discourse on ideas. It is the rhetoric of the mindless zealots.

The Golden Mean

Mr Carson's treatise serves to highlight for someone who is not a Planner (me) the essence of that professions woes - they speak goobledook !

Is Mr Carson suggesting we should look to history and tradition for the solution to our growth management woes ?

Is Mr Carson suggesting that our urban ares should consist of a series of complete, compact, walkable, mixed-use communities rather than monofunctional residential sprawl linked by roads to monofunctional commerce ?

Strangely enough these are foundational issues underpinning groups like New Urbanists.

"...Gridlock is simply a function of too many people living in an area..." Please ! These statements are so infantile that one has to smell a rat : has the Planitzen editorial team planted a "stirrer" merelyto generate some interest in its publication ?

Purposes of New Urbanism

One purpose of New Urbanism is to reduce, not increase, restrictions on development, allowing for higher densities, mixed uses, shallower setbacks, and narrower streets.

Another purpose is to get to the point where the costs of sprawl are paid for by those who "buy" it - residents, offices, and retailers. Then, compact, mixed-use development will become the dominant choice for economic and ecological reasons as well.

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New Suburbanism is not a new design paradigm that seeks to compete with or discredit principles of New Urbanism. Instead, our perspective represents a broad-based attempt to find the best, most practical ways to develop and redevelop suburban communities.